13 July 2018

Further Thoughts On 'Vatican Publishes Document Declaring a “Female Diaconate” is a Possibility in the Catholic Church'

From a further interchange of comments on FishEaters' Forum. One commenter, introducing a lengthy comment based on his experience in living in an orthodox Diocese where female altar boys are becoming a thing of the past (as they should!) said,
There will be no female priests, not in the "traditional" parishes, and not in the Novus Ordo parishes, either.
Another member replied, in part,
I'm afraid that it appears, however, that the plan is to decentralize the Church so that many things will be decided from diocese to diocese. Hopefully, the actual act of written ex-cathedra heresy won't take place, but they will simply get around that on a pastoral level, sort of like the "spirit of Vatican II" or the "internal forum" etc.
To which I replied,
Exactly! I've become convinced that Francis' template for 'reform' (=destruction) of the Church is the Anglican Communion, democratic, synodical (i.e. national episcopal conferences), decentralised (=national 'churches') government. Look at the admission of heretics and adulterers to Holy Communion. There is already a schism in the Church in Germany between Dioceses that admit heretics to Communion and those with Catholic Bishops.
We've seen how well the Anglican model works for them! Ever heard of a 'flying bishop'? 
A provincial episcopal visitor (PEV), popularly known as a flying bishop, is a Church of England bishop assigned to minister to many of the clergy, laity and parishes who on grounds of theological conviction, "are unable to receive the ministry of women bishops or priests."

The system by which said bishops provide certain churches with oversight is referred to as alternative episcopal oversight (AEO).

It's gotten so bad there that there is schism within individual dioceses. In the US it has led to massive lawsuits as parishes and dioceses who are 'orthodox' try to leave The Episcopal Church.

There are entire provinces (national churches) within the Anglican 'Communion' that will not admit members from other provinces to communion because of women's 'ordination', ordination of homosexuals, same sex 'marriage', etc.

But, it seems to me that that is the preferred model of 'reform' coming out of Rome, and we're already on the way. How long, O Lord, how long?

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