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01 November 2019
Key Amazon Synod Organizer Calls for Pachamama to Be ‘Integrated’ Into Catholic Liturgy
I've just been on an SSPX Facebook page and people are talking about leaving the Church for Orthodoxy because this idiocy is being tolerated by Rome.
Of course, that's exactly what these heretics want. It's hard to destroy the Church and remake it as part of the one world, pagan religion of the globalists, if there are a bunch of people who know, believe and practise the Faith you're trying to destroy. That's why I ain't going anywhere! I became a Catholic on St Wenceslaus' Day, 1980, and I will die a Catholic, believing the Catholic Faith enshrined in the Four Creeds of the Church, practising it as it has been practised since Christ founded it!
From LifeSiteNews
By Maike Hickson
November 1, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – A bishop who was a key organizer of the recently concluded Amazon Synod in Rome said in an interview that the pagan “Pachamama” statues that were present throughout the synod should be “integrated” into Catholic liturgy.
At an October 30 presentation of his new book, Renewal Now (2019), Bishop Erwin Kräutler commented upon the Amazon Synod in general, but also on the controversy over the presence of Pachamama statutes at some ceremonies in the Vatican.
The German Catholic newspaper Die Tagespost reported on his words and quoted him as saying that the Pachamama statues were a “form of expression of the indigenous people,” which could be “integrated into our liturgy.”
Speaking to an audience in Bregenz, Austria, the bishop said, though unspecifically, that “there are people who think that Pachamama is a goddess.”
He strongly condemned both the removal of these statues from a Church in Rome and also the fact that they were then thrown into the Tiber River, calling this act “a brutal attack on the indigenous peoples.”
Bishop Kräutler is the bishop emeritus of the Diocese of Xingu, Brazil, where he was the bishop from 1981 until 2015.
Further commenting upon the people who brought the Pachamama statues to Rome, the bishop said that they were “Catholic Christians who are far from adoring her as a divinity.” It is, according to him, a symbol of fertility.
“And if it is for many a divinity, then it is an attack upon the soul of a people to throw them into the Tiber,” he concluded, indicating that the statues could represent a goddess.
In his talk in Bregenz, the Austrian prelate also once more advocated for the idea of ordaining “personae probatae,” e.g., not only morally proven married men, but also women. For him, this is a “question of gender equality.” He admitted in an interview with the Tagespost, however, that the ordination of women would be an obstacle to the ecumenical dialogue with the Orthodox churches. “That is one of the biggest problems,” he explained.
With regard to the possibility of ordaining men and women also in Europe, Kräutler stated that “there are many well-prepared pastoral assistants (male and female), who should receive the chance [to be ordained].”
Finally, the bishop denied having said that he had never baptized an indigenous person and does not plan to do so. He called this claim “complete nonsense” and a rumor that was intentionally spread. “I said years ago that we need to have a Catholic Church with an indigenous face. It is not about baptizing indigenous people, nor to think that they thereby stop being indigenous people and then are Christians.” He said that he himself has baptized thousands of indigenous people.
A fellow Austrian missionary priest, Father Franz Helm, had quoted Bishop Kräutler in June of this year with these words: “I have not yet baptized and indigenous person and I do not intend of ever doing so.” Moreover, Helm who worked in Brazil from 1987 until 1993 quoted these words of Kräutler approvingly, since he himself shares the critical view of Christianity's history in Latin America with the bishop. Helm's comments were published by the website of the Catholic Church in Austria. He himself also stated that he does not try to convert people to the Catholic Faith, but, instead, they would have to show interest in the Faith by themselves.
In remarks to LifeSite in June of 2019, Helm explained that, in the 1990s, when he was the general secretary of Missio Austria (a pontifical missionary work), this quote from Bishop Kräutler “was transmitted to me.” He also explained that as long as “Christianity is not inculturated” in the Amazon region, “an Indian can hardly be also a Christian at the same time. Because, in order to become a Christian, an Indian has to give up his Indian being.” As examples, he pointed to the Roman Liturgy along with social forms and offices that are not sufficiently adapted to the Indian culture.
In June of this year, LifeSite also reached out to Bishop Kräutler, asking him to confirm or deny his above-quoted words. He never responded.
However, LifeSite obtained an April 13, 1992 article in the Austrian Catholic conservative newspaper Der Dreizehnte which quoted the bishop as saying the same words.
Thus, Kräutler has been recurrently quoted with these words for decades, from both progressives and conservatives, and he has never denied them, not even in June of this year, except now.
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Comments are subject to deletion if they are not germane. I have no problem with a bit of colourful language, but blasphemy or depraved profanity will not be allowed. Attacks on the Catholic Faith will not be tolerated. Comments will be deleted that are republican (Yanks! Note the lower case 'r'!), attacks on the legitimacy of Pope Francis as the Vicar of Christ (I know he's a material heretic and a Protector of Perverts, and I definitely want him gone yesterday! However, he is Pope, and I pray for him every day.), the legitimacy of the House of Windsor or of the claims of the Elder Line of the House of France, or attacks on the legitimacy of any of the currently ruling Houses of Europe.
"And if it is for many a divinity, then it is an attack upon the soul of a people to throw them into the Tiber" he concluded."
ReplyDeleteHypocrites!
Yet he DOESN'T see it as an "attack upon the soul of a people" to BRING a false idol into God's house, inflicting this outrage against a people who for 2000 years have held the Blessed Sacrament to be the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, who is OUR God even if He is not God to these demon worshipers. They don't see the contradiction, these manipulative apostates.
This profane, idol-worshpers are going to Hell for what they have done, if they do not repent. This is not to judge a man's soul, this is to judge what our eyes saw, indeed, what the world saw, when our pope blessed a demon god, and a ceremony that included worship of a demon god, and that demon god was enthroned in the place of Jesus Christ, most pointedly and intentionally on the Feast of Christ the King. The First Commandment was broken by all of them, for the world to see.
This changed everything about everything. We saw Notre Dame burn and pondered with foreboding what it meant. Now we know.