From De Omnibus Dubitandum Est.
Oh look! What a surprise! The final document of the 2018 Synod of Bishops contains language about “sexual orientation” “synodality” and “discernment” that doesn’t result from input from participants in the synod hall!
Asked who was responsible for inserting such language, Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Mumbai, India, speculated it was the officials charged by Francis with overseeing synod operations, beginning with Italian Cardinal Lorenzo (the book thief)Baldifacedliar Baldisseri, the man who lied about the inclusion of the secular (and heretical) terminology "LGBT"'s inclusion in the Instrumentum Laboris(the working document of the synod).
Speaking to Crux, Gracias said that when the bishops inside the synod received the draft, umbrage was voiced over the new language.
“There was some resistance when it was publicised because this document has so much on synodality when we really haven’t discussed it, which is true,” he said.
Gracias said he’s not entirely convinced that it is a good idea that the document is proposed to become part of the Church’s ordinary magisterium, (meaning its routine teaching authority).
"I am not in favour of putting that responsibility on the synod fathers,” he said.
“I would think that it’s not fair to the synod fathers, to the Church, to say that this is now magisterium,” he said. “I think the pope wanted to give importance to the synod, but there certainly are things there that could be theologically misunderstood and could be controversial.”
“You can’t say this is magisterium, you must accept this,” Gracias said.
“I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect [that],” he said. “How could 300 bishops coming from all over the world, many of whom are not theologians, possibly” [accomplish that]?
Gracias also said that many bishops who don’t speak Italian have been at a significant disadvantage, since key documents have been circulating only in Italian.
“If we don’t understand it, how can we vote on it?” he asked. It's a reasonable question. Perhaps some people don't want everyone to know what's in it?
“Some have said, we don’t have sufficient Italian to be able to make a judgement. We’re saying yes to something we don’t know, and that’s not right.”
So this man is saying that the Holy Spirit has waited 2018 years to introduce to Christ's Church something the Anglicans have already tried, with disastrous consequences?
So much of Pope Francis' reforms seem to be following in Anglican footsteps, but talk to any Anglican and they will tell you how disastrous all these ideas have been for their communion already!
Interesting that the Crux report states that concern about the attempt to smuggle synodality into the agenda came from bishops from countries where the Anglican Communion is prominent. Crux notes that these bishops were worried that it could be seen as the Catholic Church moving towards a quasi-majority vote system for settling disputes similar to Anglicanism. Apparently, Cardinal Nichols was one of those who spoke against this direction:
I can't wait for the thing to be finished, with all the scandals, bullying and virtually a complete absence of any sound arguments or statements. If the proposed language of synodality and sexuality are dismissed, where will that leave this shambolic, embarrassing papacy?
Asked who was responsible for inserting such language, Cardinal Oswald Gracias of Mumbai, India, speculated it was the officials charged by Francis with overseeing synod operations, beginning with Italian Cardinal Lorenzo (the book thief)
Speaking to Crux, Gracias said that when the bishops inside the synod received the draft, umbrage was voiced over the new language.
“There was some resistance when it was publicised because this document has so much on synodality when we really haven’t discussed it, which is true,” he said.
Gracias said he’s not entirely convinced that it is a good idea that the document is proposed to become part of the Church’s ordinary magisterium, (meaning its routine teaching authority).
"I am not in favour of putting that responsibility on the synod fathers,” he said.
“I would think that it’s not fair to the synod fathers, to the Church, to say that this is now magisterium,” he said. “I think the pope wanted to give importance to the synod, but there certainly are things there that could be theologically misunderstood and could be controversial.”
“You can’t say this is magisterium, you must accept this,” Gracias said.
“I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect [that],” he said. “How could 300 bishops coming from all over the world, many of whom are not theologians, possibly” [accomplish that]?
Gracias also said that many bishops who don’t speak Italian have been at a significant disadvantage, since key documents have been circulating only in Italian.
“If we don’t understand it, how can we vote on it?” he asked. It's a reasonable question. Perhaps some people don't want everyone to know what's in it?
“Some have said, we don’t have sufficient Italian to be able to make a judgement. We’re saying yes to something we don’t know, and that’s not right.”
The first thing one has to wonder is what on earth "synodality" has got to do with "youth"??? The very fact that this is being mentioned in this context is deeply disturbing. Of course one reason could be that such a move towards synodality prevents any youth in the future from attempting a Catholic restoration - any reform of the deforming of the reform of the 'reform'. Are we seeing Pope Francis burning the bridges?
Amazingly, Archbishop Miguel Cabrejos Vidarte of Trujillo of Peru said at yesterday's Presser: "Synodality, we have developed it here", adding "it is the product of the Holy Spirit, indicated that the Church should practice Synodality and act within the framework of Synodality"
At #Synod2018 Presser; Archbishop Miguel Cabrejos Vidarte of Trujillo (Peru) says "Synodality, we have developed it here", adding "it is the product of the Holy Spirit, indicated that the Church should practice Synodality and act within the framework of Synodality"
So much of Pope Francis' reforms seem to be following in Anglican footsteps, but talk to any Anglican and they will tell you how disastrous all these ideas have been for their communion already!
The holy spirit has waited 2,000 years to tell us to do something that the Anglicans have already done??
It has worked sooooo well for the Anglican Church!
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